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Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:02 pm**

Hi there.

I can't remember where I got the attached puzzle.
It was called k20080118_163245_IQ_X_c27_22_1.txt

I check the Outties for Nonets 6 and 9.
14+7+22+10+18+16+10 = 97.

Three cells are outties = sum to be 7
Permutation for 7 = 1,2,4 <-- Is this where I lose it ?

Cell F4, I am happy with 2.
Cells E9 and F9 I am not happy with.

Sumocue solves those to be 2 and 3.

Means my Outtie understanding is wrong.
There is no need for the "7" sum to be a normal perm . . .
. . . but it could be any three numbers adding to 7

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Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:06 pm**

Methuselah wrote:Three cells are outties = sum to be 7
Permutation for 7 = 1,2,4 <-- Is this where I lose it ?

Hi Methuselah.

Those outties are not in the same house (r,c, n or diagonal) therefore they can have repeats eg 1,1,5: or 2,2,3.

Killers play many tricks

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Cheers
Ed

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:17 pm**

Drat, thought as much - thank you, Sir !

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:51 am**

The puzzle is one of DJApe's, and I still make that mistake occasionally.

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:24 pm**

thats it djape seldom semetrical and those filenames looked familliar

does he have more than 3 clueless killers yet?

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:18 pm**

Pete,
I check djape's site eveyday, and there have only been 3 clueless puzzle.
Susan

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:24 am**

Hi,
I am still strugling to finish my first Assasin.
But what I am doing is going through the Walktroughs in this forum.
It really helps to see what is the "state of the art".
Helps to compare your approach with that taken by others.

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