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Ruud
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: DOAG Reply with quote

Glyn wrote:
If Ruud ever posts a DOAG (85 puzzles) the number of overlapping regions will be gross. Very Happy

Indeed...



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The creation time for these puzzles is exponential relative to their size. This puzzle took several hours to create. My only consolation is that it will take you much longer to solve it. Twisted Evil

Solving tips:
I counted 230 rounds (each round containing all moves that can be deducted from the current state of the grid)
There are quite a few rounds where only a single placement is possible. Good luck finding those needles...
All but 3 grids can be solved with basic techniques.
To solve the last 3 grids, a chain spanning 2 grids is required. This may sound horrible, but this is supposed to be a horrible puzzle.

Enjoy,
Ruud
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Glyn
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruud One grid down, only 84 to go,I hope its right. Why did I make a comment about gross(144).

Next you'll be making a Diag DOAG.
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enxio27
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, goodness gracious! I'm still trying to make my way through Clueless #4a!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be still, beating heart Very Happy

I thought MOAG was big enough but this - this is a trip to the printers for a very. very large sheet of paper!

I am going to have very pleasant dreams now, wondering how big GMOAG and GDOAG (grandma and grandpa) might be. Very Happy

Thanks, Ruud

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Marlie
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

42 grids to go ...thanx Sinterklaas Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished it Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still hungry?

http://www.sudoku.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=5705
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always hungry Ruud, you know me Wink
I named it DOAG 2
Thanx again Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night I finished DOAG 2
So this will be a lonely weekend Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still trying to convince myself to grind down on MOAG 1, dagnabbit. Where do you find the time to do these??
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