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SCE #2. Now a real solveable Clueless Explosion.
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FirstOfNine
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Clueless Explosions Reply with quote

Hi all
I was just about to write
"a thursday without an explosion is not a thursday"
when I saw your thread.

So I'll add my twocents here.... maybe it's helpful in some way...

I've created an Excel sheet some time ago and a handful of macros that I used for solving Ruud's Explosions...

I used to copy the lines under the explosion and then just use some macros in my temporary worksheet which populated 9+1 sudokus on another spreadsheet that I copied to use it for solving the current Clueless or Clueless Explosion.

Maybe it's not the most straight-forward attack but it worked for me...
edit: if someone is interested, leave me a note...

ok, I'll have to get some sleep now.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oscar wrote:
Well, first I tried opening 10 times SudoCue and doing manually the syncronization. After two hours I got stuck Mad but then:
JLynn wrote:
One possibility is to load up Ruud's latest Explosion, clear out the givens (type 0 on the squares), and type in the given's for BÝrge's new puzzle.
That took 30 minutes to do and 60 to solve Very Happy , now I have an empty CluelessHelper configured for Clueless Explosions

Sarah wrote:
load to an Excel template.
and so I am now trying to build such a template for the future...

It is good to have the possibility to enjoy again Clueless Explosions. Thank you very much BÝrge Applause


How come clearing out the givens never works for me? I clear it and save as: blank grid. Then I type in the puzzle i want to work on. Again I save as; the name of whatever puzzle it is. If I close it, when I open it up again, it has the original puzzle there, with any added digits I've put in...

what am I doing wrong? and how come this won't work for me? Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Clueless Explosion Borge #1 Reply with quote

Well Done, Borge!!

For Lynn and others, I have a Borge's Explosion in .clu format so that it can be loaded into Clueless Helper. I'll post it here if anyone knows how to attach a file to these messages. Alternatively, if you send me a private message with an email address, I will email the file to you.

Best to all,
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borge,
Very nice puzzle. Thank you; it helped alleviate my withdrawal symptoms.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn,
lynn893 wrote:
How come clearing out the givens never works for me?... .... If I close it, when I open it up again, it has the original puzzle there, with any added digits I've put in
When I close it, I close the CluelessHelper program. Then running again the CluelessHelper gets me in a "new game" situation into which I can >Game >Open the saved grid with the clearing done previously.
Hope this helps you.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Clueless Explosion Borge #1 Reply with quote

Nouggie wrote:
For Lynn and others, I have a Borge's Explosion in .clu format so that it can be loaded into Clueless Helper. I'll post it here if anyone knows how to attach a file to these messages.

Nouggie, why donít you just grab yourself a 100% free of charge hotmail account? Along with it comes a SkyDrive with 5GB of space. On it you can create Private, Group and Public folders.
Create a Public folder, upload whatever you want to share with us and post it here as a LINK using [url][/url] or a PICTURE using [img][/img]. That's what Iím doing.

Some good news: I created a second Clueless Explosion in a mere 15 minutes. The problem was that it was to easy (mostly naked and hidden singles). It took me 2,5 hours to turn it unto a really difficult puzzle. How difficult it is I do not yet know. Could be a Clueless Explosion Nightmare. According to Richard Broughtonís SudokuSolver it is solvable and has one solution only. Iíll post it here later today as SCE #1.

Later I will create a 3rd Clueless Explosion to be posted here next Thursday (2008-03-20) at 19:00 GMT. 12:00 GMT is not a good time for me.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only way I can save a 'blank' grid, is by opening a notepad file containing the correct amount of zeros. Then I do a 'save as' blank.

I'm not sure why, but if I open Ruud's puzzle, then delete all givens, it doesn't matter if I resave it or nothing! all givens return each time I reopen the puzzle. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lynn893 wrote:
... if I open Ruud's puzzle, then delete all givens, it doesn't matter if I resave it or nothing! all givens return each time I reopen the puzzle. Rolling Eyes
After saving, EXIT the program. Then run the program and use the OPEN comand on the file you saved.
I do not know why,.. but it works! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lynn893 wrote:
I'm not sure why, but if I open Ruud's puzzle, then delete all givens, it doesn't matter if I resave it or nothing! all givens return each time I reopen the puzzle. Rolling Eyes

As Oscar wrote:
After having deleted the givens and saved to a file with "Game > Save As...", it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that you IMMEDIATELY EXIT the Clueless Helper. If you now start the Clueless Helper again and open the previously saved file using "Game > Open...", you should have an empty grid.


lynn893 wrote:
the only way I can save a 'blank' grid, is by opening a notepad file containing the correct amount of zeros. Then I do a 'save as' blank.

I am unable to do this!!
How did you do this?
Using Notepad did you save as .TXT or .CLU?
How many lines with how many zeros on each line did you have in your file?
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